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Mac 65/70 Sighting (Roger & ANTHEM)

Postby Bobby T.-26X #4767 » Mon May 01, 2006 11:06 am

So Im about 4 miles south of the Oceanside Harbor on a slow sail north, a mile off the coast line. Its about 6pm. Beer in one hand, looking straight ahead in meditation.
All of a sudden, on my starboard aft, 30 feet from meI hear a monster boat heading in my same direction.
Hes going 12 knots under WOT (thats what the Mac65 does). Im completely startled!

Who in the hull???

My o my, its Roger in the blue-hulled (fast) ANTHEM and a crew of 6 heading north from Ensenada after their big Newport to Ensenada race. Mike Inmon (Dealer) was aboard.
They laughed & waved politely, knowing they pulled a fast one on me. I waved back and watched as they continued north back to Newport Harbor.

20 minutes later I decided to motor in to Oceanside Harbor only to find the ANTHEM in front of the Jolly Roger restaurant. They had decided to stop for dinner.

I pulled in next to them, we chatted for a while. Fun stuff!

I tried to hide my Tohatsu 90 TLDI from Roger, afraid that he would reprimand me, but to no avail.
However, I was pleasantly surprised by his comments on the use of a larger motor for the Mac26-M/X.
That is, hes confident that the hull is strong enough to support a larger motor, told me a couple of stories to support his belief, and will probably increase the rating to a larger motor.

He didnt say when, or if it would be on this model (a 28 footer perhaps?).

On a side note, Mike Inmon shared with me that he just installed a 90 ETEC on an M and is very happy with the performance.

We can all discuss the juicy details at the gathering in Two Harbors the weekend of 5/19.
Both Roger (with ANTHEM) and Mike will be there.

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Postby Tom Root » Mon May 01, 2006 12:28 pm

Wow, now that story is just plain awesome in every respect! I am fairly certain Anthem is still a 65', and is featured in several Video's that marketed the classics, and the X for sure!

Guess it is faster now with that Blue hull though!

I'd give my birthday away to sail with Roger on Anthem too! :P

Unfortuantely I will be back east when ya'll will be at Catalina! :(
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Postby Bobby T.-26X #4767 » Mon May 01, 2006 5:04 pm

Tom Root wrote: I am fairly certain Anthem is still a 65', and is featured in several Video's that marketed the classics, and the X for sure!
:(


both of these sites reference it as a 70.
but who's measuring?

http://www.bwyachts.com/La%20Perla%20Noir/California%2005%20Photos.htm

http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/boating-news.html
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Postby Rolf » Mon May 01, 2006 7:05 pm

Wow Bob that is a cool story. Can't believe he gave his blessing to our 90's! Can't wait to pester him about building a 35-40 in the water x with nice head/s, shower, 200 horse for less than 90 grand(good luck!).
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Postby Matt Roving » Wed May 03, 2006 1:31 am

Great story. They had a good race, and were a happy bunch when your paths crossed. Only two legit M70's exist. One of them is Anthem. The real news is the recent mizzen mast. Look again at the pics.
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Re: M70

Postby Bobby T.-26X #4767 » Wed May 03, 2006 9:39 am

Matt Roving wrote:The real news is the recent mizzen mast. Look again at the pics.


the first thing i noticed.

regarding the 70' length...the group was talking to several other boat owners on the dock and when asked how long, they replied "over 70".

the extra 8-10' is obvious to me. all in the rear end.
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Postby BK » Wed May 03, 2006 5:06 pm

Rolf, have a friend selling his 34 power boat at a great loss just to unload as full time slip fees and maintenance is too much. It would be the same for a 34' power/sail boat with a 200 horse. I'll go for the trailer 28' with a 90HP for $30,000 but that wouild be my limit.
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Postby waternwaves » Wed May 03, 2006 8:02 pm

speaking of other things to notice about Anthem,

The balance of the boat seems to have been affected,

The waterline trim strip seems to indicate from the pic that she has taken a considerable amount of weight aft, Weight that seems in excess of just the mast and support mounting.

Roger wouldn't have put a larger motor in there also would he??

Seriously, since I have never dove under the boat I cannot say whether that mast is fore or aft of the rudder, so classification is somewhat questionable.......yawl, ketch etc.... Does anyone know where the rudder center post is??

But she does seem to sit a little tail heavy............ just like my boat............

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Postby Rolf » Thu May 04, 2006 12:15 am

Yea BK,
If I did ever upgrade, I would probably lean towards a 35-40 foot used Catalina, even under sail or power at 7 knots it's still only 3 hours away from the island here. Slip and comfort would be the reason. And I would still keep the mac--just in case! Hope to see you at the island.
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Postby Chip Hindes » Thu May 04, 2006 8:53 am

It seems as with all Macs, Anthem is an interesting study in compromise. Until this one, every photo I've ever seen of the Mac 65/70 shows a cutter rig with two RF foresails. but if the staysail is RF, the inner forestay is not easily removable, and RF is the only reasonable way to tack that big honking genny.

It appears for Anthem Roger has sacrificed the RF staysail. Is this because with the mizzen he already has more sail than he can use, or has he simply substituted a hank-on staysail on a deployable inner stay?

Anybody able to find a photo of Anthem under sail?
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Postby BK » Thu May 04, 2006 9:31 am

Rolf, can't make it for this Catalina trip but would like to see the interior of Roger's boat. Would he allow pictures to be shown here?
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Newport Ensinada Race Result

Postby mighetto » Sat May 06, 2006 10:18 am

Results are still preliminary but it looks like ANTHEM finished in just over 24 hours which puts her in the top 3rd or so of PHRF-A class. Pretty good for a not serious racer. I suspect the wineretias were flowing prior to the start. It took over 2 plus days for many of the 400 plus boats to finish.

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Postby cuisto » Sat May 06, 2006 11:24 am

My wife saw the pics of ANTHEM and asked what I thought it would cost.
I would guess about 500,000 any better guesses???
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Postby ALX357 » Sat May 06, 2006 11:57 am

....'as the saying goes... "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it." Plus upkeep.
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Postby Bobby T.-26X #4767 » Sat May 06, 2006 6:46 pm

cuisto wrote:My wife saw the pics of ANTHEM and asked what I thought it would cost.
I would guess about 500,000 any better guesses???


'87 - $159K

'89 - $165K

'90 - $225K

'92 - $209K

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